Xavier Hastings
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Posted - 2013.08.18 03:04:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote: But back to your point, tell me how a society built around the principles of bettering one's self over one's neighbors can achieve a state of peaceful unity. Won't you always be looking for the next way to exploit others, as is currently the case within the Federation? Such a society can clearly exist and thrive as your Federation has proven, but it will never obtain true unity.
I read this I am must comment on it.
You misinterpret us. We do not want to better ourselves over our neighbor. We do not wish to exploit others. Our ideals are founded in liberty and personal rights, but you cannot, ever, infringe on another's.
At least, this is the way it is supposed to be. Most Gallenteans believe this, but, there are some who do not. It seems these people are in power. If they are corrupt, then I support whomever blows the whistle. |
Xavier Hastings
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Posted - 2013.08.25 23:09:00 -
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Revolution? No, revolution is not acceptable.
Even though I do not doubt that there are the corrupt inside our government, they are not as bad as you say they are, Mister Kirk. The fact that you were told to kill a mother of three may or may not be true, depending on your ambitions.
Nay, if you propose to fight a bloody war against these "tyrants", which has no ground or merit due to the fact that our freedoms are still intact, then I must oppose who you are and what you stand for.
If they are corrupt, they will be outed as such, and shall be voted out of office. It has been so for a plethora of years, and should remain so. |
Xavier Hastings
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Posted - 2013.08.27 23:15:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Xavier Hastings wrote:Revolution? No, revolution is not acceptable.
Even though I do not doubt that there are the corrupt inside our government, they are not as bad as you say they are, Mister Kirk. The fact that you were told to kill a mother of three may or may not be true, depending on your ambitions.
Nay, if you propose to fight a bloody war against these "tyrants", which has no ground or merit due to the fact that our freedoms are still intact, then I must oppose who you are and what you stand for.
If they are corrupt, they will be outed as such, and shall be voted out of office. It has been so for a plethora of years, and should remain so. I was assigned to take out The Mother, I was there in the city with my rifle scope zoomed into her window. I decided to go awol after what I saw that evening and what I've done. I am not the one who imposed a bloody war you pawn. We are there to expose the truth to the people. The very fact that you jump straight to violent revolution shows me just how single-minded the Gallente people are to anyone that speaks against their government. We do not fight unless it is necessary and so far we've only resulted in violence in defense against cronies of the Federation. You are still asleep Citizen, wake up from the dream. The nightmare is reality. If you truly did value Gallentean culture, you would realize that bloody revolution is not the answer. The people are the the answer. A peaceful revolution is the answer.
And forgive me if I misinterpret you, but it is hard to believe that you are advocating anything but violent revolution. And single-minded? I am quite open actually. The only people I personally have a quarrel with is the Amarran Government, and the people who do inflict torture on their slaves. But the people that are not too fanatic, I do not a problem with. I do not even have a problem with the Caldari, the one we have the bitterest feud with. To say that I am single-minded, comrade, is completely absurd.
Also, do give us proof of such deeds. I will not take your word on it.
Matobar explains it quite nicely:
Matobar wrote:I look at this collection of ideas, and I have to laugh. Both out of condescension, and out of pity.
A true Gallente would know how outrageous your ideas are, how far off the mark you are.
You claim to be Gallente, but your talk of revolution and anarchy put the lie to your words.
You claim to be serving the Gallente people, but how can that be? You rail against the government, saying it is leading the nation "into darkness," and yet I don't see how that can be so.
Who is it that puts the government into power? The people.
Who is it that views every decision, every law, every act the government can enact? The people.
And what is the Gallente ideal based around? Her people.
You claim the government is leading its people from the light, but how are you better? They chose their leaders, and you want to replace them? "For their own good? For the good of all Gallente?" Sounds like the same reasoning that made you put innocents to death.
What gives you the right, the power, to decide the fate of billions? Who are you to decide you're better fit to lead the Federation than those chosen to do so by Her people?
Listen, "brother", to the hypocrisy of your own words, before you accuse others of being the source of the problem.
It is good some people are sane.
Sgt Kirk wrote:The post from the Gallentean that is confident in the good-nature of the current Federation is the very reason our objective is hard to achieve.
How do you prove something true when you flash the truth before their eyes and it's still not believe.
Pure Gallentean or not, it doesn't take an intellectual to see that the Federation is not the Federation we hold it to be.
Matobar is a the very definition of what we're going up against. So, you are going against the people and deciding to overthrow leaders that were properly elected? Going against Democracy?
If they are corrupt, please do expose them. But let the people act.
True Adamance wrote: Do you? The Gallentean precedents of good and evil, right and wrong seem very obscure to me.
*sigh*
I've explained this before, but this is fun, right?
It is not that we do not have morals, it is that the government does not take a say in it. No morals are forced upon you in our nation. Of course, values are not put down, either. If you are mature enough to make a decision, then make it yourself. The Government will not babysit you. They will, however, give you the outcome of the choices, both good and bad. It is up to you to take the risk, or not. |